People who rip into people and rip other owners off, with overpriced parts!
I always thought that car forums and communities were places where like minded owners help each other out with experience, knowledge and the sale of parts at community prices... it seems not!
For example Driftworks, people sell goods cheap because well...... drifters are cheap and want everything for nothing, to allow them to continue with their hobby! Hence Tramp Drifters exist!
But enthusiast communities are supposed to be about helping each other out, and sharing a wealth of knowledge, not so much here anymore. What I see lately is owners over pricing items, and longtime community members (who don't even own skylines) posting threads and comments towards new members that cause a reaction and bring a cloud of negativity to the site.
I'm not naming names, they know who they are.
But, I will give an example:
"Someone ask's a question, that they could of searched for..." and they jump straight down their throats, or they ask a question with not enough parameters for someone who is clearly to clever to answer, but would rather respond with statements that belittle them and make the site seem like the most unfriendly, confrontational place on teh internets!
I know I can sometimes be harsh, and that some of you hold an opinion of me that you will only talk about in private forums or private PM's, but at least I air my views to you directly!
My first impression was it was a moaning thread so I locked it and had a look at your last posts, I agreed with your opinion and decided it was worthwhile discussing it here, I changed my post from "locked" to "subscribes"
i know what you mean to regards to prices main culprits are what we call them around here Just Donate Money Garage thats why now days i shop with skyline spares essex as steve doesnt rip you off and he is very helpful
these days its cheaper to buy stuff from some one else than a trader thats on the club seems like club discount doesnt count any more
for example i wanted black winscreen washer jets Just Donate Money Garage wanted £15plus P&P for the pair sod that i went to halfords (even tho they charge the earth) and picked up a universal set for £4
£270+ vat +postage for standard spec 2 front bumper.
But aside from that, we are not very welcoming to new members..... I've seen new guys come and go over the last few months because of some peoples answers to their questions. It's embarrassing as a community member.... I thought forums like that were a thing of the past.
Niz you are spot on with this my first few posts (whilst trying to get to know how to use the forum an get to know people) I had people just tryin belittle me etc hence my first 6month just saying hi to newbies pmsl. Now I haven't got a big knowledge of the cars but I will try help out where I can
I know what you mean, what gets to me are the company's that are straight in buying up all the parts and then you have to go to them for parts and they are selling for twice the price they paid! not saying all are doing it but i think we all know the one's that are. I thought this site was for people like me who don't want to get spanked when looking for second hand parts to keep my passion alive!! instead i get my ass skelped when something breaks on my car. That rant started off supposed to be a few words, right ok rant over.
The odd thing is even when I try to sell 'wanted' stuff at great prices one seems to want it, then after I give up, someone sells worse crap for more!!!!
I still have a lovely HKS high-power copy here and R34 SMIC cheep and no-one wants, yet traders charge double+ what I want.
But I saw your other posts and KNOW what your talking about - piss take it was.
Supply and demand plays a huge part with our cars being rare imports. Dealers offer an instant off the shelf solution to most problems, but because they have sourced and stored the parts before hand and have them readily available, their prices will usually always be higher than that one off owner selling a part because he no longer needs it.
I personally go through bouts of selling parts dirt cheap or at what i feel to be "true value" depending if i want to make money from it, or just want it out of the way, as I'm sure a few other people on here do so i can understand why some people sell the same item for 1/10th of or 10x the price as someone else.
It's a buyers market at the end of it all and that will ultimately determine the value of the items imo.
If a buyer needs an item ASAP, a dealer is the best bet where time > money, likewise the opposite is true where people will wait for a personal add if time < money.
I completely agree with the other statement though about belittling members.
I try my best to help out people when possible as i see many other members do, however have also had occasions where I've www.lmgtfy.com. unfortunately sarcasm/ humor doesn't translate very well in plain-text so can understand how this may come across as insulting.
On the whole though, this is by far one of the better communities (I can think of another skyline related forum that is MUCH worse!). Hell, i'm a member on other forums where posts / threads are instantly locked if you so much as utter another word about a club or try to sell or hint at items you may no longer need if you're not a paying member. No disrespect to them, they are a great bunch of guys, and it's their forum at the end of it.
Things can always be better, but .. for what it's worth i like it here, and every member I've met so far has been brilliant.
It goes without saying that without the help of this forum i would never be able to afford to maintain my r33!
IMHO this is a pretty welcoming forum. When I was looking for a stagea, and since buying it, I've signed up to the 4 relevant forums (including a red one, a stagea specific one, and one that is only interested in rb26's).
I've stuck around here as I've found it to be the friendliest by far. Don't get me wrong the red site has also bee friendly, but the other two are definitely very different to here.
I have been on a lot of car related sites for some years, and I would disagree about the response to daft and newbie questions, I actually think this forum is pretty good in that although there is sometimes an element of tried patience in answers to a question that been asked for the 100k time, and most of the daft questions are answered with a good willed humour.
Some other forums are far less tolerant of this, and new members often suffer severe belittlement and piss taking, lets face it, if your of a timid or easily insulted demeanor, the the Internet is no place for you, there are so many different types of people out there and the and only some play nice.