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Old 17-02-2016, 03:48 PM   #1
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Dear Admin Team,

I have an idea I would like to run by you for consideration, and I have this idea with the best interests of the "COMMUNITY" at heart.

So based on that, please do not Delete my thread or posts if asked to by any traders.

Would it be possible to change the Forum from Free / Trader Paid to Yearly User subscription based?

The way I see it the help and advice you get on here from community members is far more valuable than the products and services offered by some traders.

I also think that your return would be greater as there are more community members than traders. This would also resolve issues with "Dodgy" members as they are less likely to pay a subscription.

You could also make the Private sales section available to subscribed members only as well. You could then reduce the fee's to traders and thus secure more authorised traders in the process as introducing fee's would not lower your bottom line it would increase it.

Thus lessening the chances for someone to rip another member off just because they meet the 100 post rule, sure keep non subscribed members but limit their access to certain areas of the forum, if fee's are linked to Paypal and that's the payment method you use, then you will not have the same problems that have plagued the forum for so many years (rogue traders).

And what about current admin/moderator roles, is it not about time we changed things up a bit and promoted some moderators and renewed the administrator line up. We could even promote some longtime standing members to moderators.

Just food for thought, but it would be great to get your feedback on my idea?
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Old 17-02-2016, 04:03 PM   #2
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As far as I know and understand the forum has always been free and always will be and there is no plans to change this, If people want a paid club then there is GTROC or skyline-owners-club.

Also I think there is enough traders and pricing for trading is cheap enough compared to a lot of forums this size.
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I'd definitely chase response as opposed to out n out power - even a jump from 300-340bhp to 400bhp is a serious fright - going to 450-500 is mental ...unless your Bruce there... then power is like pringles... enough is never enough ;)
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The problem with the forum being FREE is that it relies on traders and as such traders are given priority over members. Which is wrong on so many levels for an online "community" in my opinion.

The community is built on it's members and honesty between them, disputes between traders and members always go in favor of the traders here. You yourself Bruce had my comments removed from a "General" topic about insurance because one of the Traders asked for the comments to be removed.

I also received a warning for this, are you saying that is not true and you have not sided and given priority to the trader?
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The problem with the forum being FREE is that it relies on traders and as such traders are given priority over members. Which is wrong on so many levels for an online "community" in my opinion.

The community is built on it's members and honesty between them, disputes between traders and members always go in favor of the traders here. You yourself Bruce had my comments removed from a "General" topic about insurance because one of the Traders asked for the comments to be removed.

I also received a warning for this, are you saying that is not true and you have not sided and given priority to the trader?
I haven't had your comments removed from anything, I don't need to have them removed if I thought something was out of order I would just remove it and send you a PM explaining the situation.

It's clear to see you seem to have a problem with Aplan, a member posts how happy he is with the service he's received and you go on the negative troll rather than passing on by the thread.
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I'd definitely chase response as opposed to out n out power - even a jump from 300-340bhp to 400bhp is a serious fright - going to 450-500 is mental ...unless your Bruce there... then power is like pringles... enough is never enough ;)
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Okay so who removed my comments from that thread in the "general" section of the forum? You have visibility in your logs for audit. Which administrator or Moderator removed the posts and for what reason did they give?

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Originally Posted by Your A plan insurance posts.
Not quite sure why but admin have requested that you posts on the A plan thread be deleted and you be warned not to post on a plans threads, as they suspect you have a problem with them? and don't want the fallout on the forum.

Don't shoot the messenger, I personally thought that the question asked was OK but not relevant to that particular thread.

Why not just post up the question in the general insurance section for any broker to answer?
I find it very odd, that after A-Plan and yourself post in that thread my comments are removed. When my comments do not point to any one insurance broker, they were general comments in a general thread.

Not at all and you are very wrong to claim such a thing Bruce, your opinion is that I have a problem with a trader, I do not.... if I did I'd be going to the governing body that regulates those traders not posting on a forum as a "troll" as you put it. It's a public forum, people use it to share information, post comments and debate. I have a problem with how traders are put above community members, when the community should be the ones protected from these kinds of trading and underhanded tactics.

There are other comments about insurance on said thread and yet they remain?!! My comments were in response to other comments, hence the nature of a conversation / debate. It was not in the Insurance Deals section and so I see no reason why "You Admin" deem them to be inappropriate and thus remove them.

They were removed because a certain trader has requested them to be removed, but you are never going to admit that, as you want to save face.
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Okay so who removed my comments from that thread in the "general" section of the forum? You have visibility in your logs for audit. Which administrator or Moderator removed the posts and for what reason did they give?



I find it very odd, that after A-Plan and yourself post in that thread my comments are removed. When my comments do not point to any one insurance broker, they were general comments in a general thread.

Not at all and you are very wrong to claim such a thing Bruce, your opinion is that I have a problem with a trader, I do not.... if I did I'd be going to the governing body that regulates those traders not posting on a forum as a "troll" as you put it. It's a public forum, people use it to share information, post comments and debate. I have a problem with how traders are put above community members, when the community should be the ones protected from these kinds of trading and underhanded tactics.

There are other comments about insurance on said thread and yet they remain?!! My comments were in response to other comments, hence the nature of a conversation / debate. It was not in the Insurance Deals section and so I see no reason why "You Admin" deem them to be inappropriate and thus remove them.

They were removed because a certain trader has requested them to be removed, but you are never going to admit that, as you want to save face.
They were removed by Tricky which you already know and the reason why so I'm not sure why you are asking me, if you have an issue feel free to drop him a PM.

It is indeed my opinion that you have a problem with Aplan and various other traders, but it's not only my opinion but quite a few other members, but i'm not going to get in too that and start naming names.

Traders are certainly not put above members, we aim to keep it a level playing field and if people have a problem then they should be coming to us administrators to voice their issues as that's what we are here for.
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I'd definitely chase response as opposed to out n out power - even a jump from 300-340bhp to 400bhp is a serious fright - going to 450-500 is mental ...unless your Bruce there... then power is like pringles... enough is never enough ;)
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I rarely come by here, but do occasionally pop by. I certainly wouldn't if it went subscription based.

With the subject of traders and dodgy deals, I got massively ****ed over by two of the biggest traders on here, all the big posters on here defended them and I was wrong apparently, even though I was left hundreds of pounds out of pocket. This is the reason I can't be arsed with the forum like I used to.
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Slightly off the original topic but the one suggestion I have is for traders to have no admin or moderator rights so they do not have the ability to remove or edit any justified comments.

This keeps all trader / product feedback fair and unbiased without being manipulated. Providing a trader provides a good product and service then there shouldnt be any issue with it.

Obviously traders should still be able to edit their own posts but no ability to edit or remove anyone elses posts.

Thats coming from me as a trader (although for some reason its only showing as registered user)
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Slightly off the original topic but the one suggestion I have is for traders to have no admin rights so they do not have the ability to remove or edit any justified comments.

This keeps all trader / product feedback fair and unbiased without being manipulated. Providing a trader provides a good product and service then there shouldnt be any issue with it.

Obviously traders should still be able to edit their own posts but no ability to edit or remove anyone elses posts.

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Slightly off the original topic but the one suggestion I have is for traders to have no admin rights so they do not have the ability to remove or edit any justified comments.

This keeps all trader / product feedback fair and unbiased without being manipulated. Providing a trader provides a good product and service then there shouldnt be any issue with it.

Obviously traders should still be able to edit their own posts but no ability to edit or remove anyone elses posts.
That's something that I would also support, it would keep everything transparent and would not be a hindrance to any honest trader.

I am glad to see that these days we don't seem to have many private sales problems (DKs issues aside) whether that due to the reduced forum traffic or the 100 post rule I don't know, however I have always advocated having a section where any private sales dispute could be sorted out publically by only the parties involved, that way we could all see who has had a genuine problem, and who to avoid buying or sales.

Yes there will always be bitches but this way we can make our own judgments based on what seems genuine or not, and not rely on hearsay.
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Slightly off the original topic but the one suggestion I have is for traders to have no admin or moderator rights so they do not have the ability to remove or edit any justified comments.

This keeps all trader / product feedback fair and unbiased without being manipulated. Providing a trader provides a good product and service then there shouldnt be any issue with it.

Obviously traders should still be able to edit their own posts but no ability to edit or remove anyone elses posts.

Thats coming from me as a trader (although for some reason its only showing as registered user)
Yes deffo for that idea
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Yes I'm new, and I hope I don't get a warning for this like the OP did ? However.

Agree with the 6 boost post about trader/sellers admins right's
In any forum/message board a seller/trader should not have admin right in my eyes. I think the reason's are obvious and don't need to go into that.

I know the 100 post rule, But others still bend it ( seen two this visit )
I will offer part's for free/cover post, if someone needs it and it's just laying about and no use to me to try and help, or put people in touch with others.

Maybe a one time lifetime membership ( to prove sellers/buyers address in case of bad parts, not received, reversed payment ) and be able to sell as a private seller after 50 posts ? None paid members 100/500 post's ?


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I think a admin or super boss would have to edit the reply into bullet point's or risk a Jerry Springer event lol
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Hello,

I just want to add that as a trader I do not have the ability to amend or delete other peoples threads.

If there is a thread about us and someone posts a comment which is untrue then I will report it and leave it to the SOC forum to see if it helps the forum and the community.

The post that was removed from a thread that was originally started in praise of A-Plan was that brokers had no power on the outcome on claims.

This is completely false as I help clients every day with claims from calling garages, chasing third party insurers, sourcing hard to get windscreens from alternative suppliers, helping to get adverts of cars on sites like piston heads and the owners clubs to help the insurers come up with the correct value for the vehicle. The list goes on.

The thread was removed because if someone had an accident they might not come to us first to help with the claim. We offer the best advise and can try and deal with the third party directly so you do not have to pay an excess or pass you over to the legal cover who again can sort out the claim for you.

In our office we have a specialist claims handler. all he does is handle claims on a day to day basis and I often here him on the phone to the insurers claim teams and chasing stuff up, dealing with garages etc, getting CCTV footage, witness statements and pushing the claim as long as quick as possible. So this massively impacts the claim and the decisions made with the insurers claims department.

The post was removed as it did not reflect the service that A-Plan offer you as the client.

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Admin, can you remove Dan's post please as it has nothing to do with the topic on discussion here, contrary it confirms my exact reason for my initial post at the top as he states:

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The post was removed as it did not reflect the service that A-Plan offer you as the client.
But this is not the traders paid for section, neither were the posts I put on the other topic, so this TRADER should have no priority over a member in a non trader area and yet he clearly does have hence confirming on this thread that he had the posts removed.

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I've said it before a third party broker has no influence on any claim, they act as a gateway sometimes between you and the underwriter. It is the underwriter's claims department that deals with the claims.

When you need to notify the insurer of a claim, you call the insurers claim line to inform them of your claim. APlan need to know for their own records, so they can mark a claim against your account and NCD for monitoring that is all.
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Slightly off the original topic but the one suggestion I have is for traders to have no admin or moderator rights so they do not have the ability to remove or edit any justified comments.

This keeps all trader / product feedback fair and unbiased without being manipulated. Providing a trader provides a good product and service then there shouldnt be any issue with it.

Obviously traders should still be able to edit their own posts but no ability to edit or remove anyone elses posts.

Thats coming from me as a trader (although for some reason its only showing as registered user)
This is something I've always wanted and think it's time it was implemented
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