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I'll be moving from the UK to the Basel area in a couple of months, and would like to take my R32 GTR with me.

Can anyone help with pointers and tips on how best to go about it in order to get shiny Swiss plates on the car?

Are there any companies in the area who would be able to help with conversion and registration?

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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Hi mate, I´m not from switzerland as you can see, but I do know a little about it and it is a right pain to get a Skyline registered in Switzerland, that´s for sure. Even worse than it is in Germany. Quite time and money consuming process. You will defo need to convert your headlights by using some sort of E-marked solution and in addition to that get an expensive emission test (not the regular one that we all know from MOT/TUV etc) done. Normally they will also want to test your car for noise. Not only your exhaust but a full noise test including drive by. There are a couple of guys in Switzerland who already gone through all that, but not too many of them. In fact don´t even know if anyone of them is on this forum at all. If, they will be up some time soon I´d say. :cheers:
 

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Thanks for the feedback.

I've got my company looking into contacts and requirements as well, but don't expect too much as this most likely is something that will fall a bit outside of what they normally help out with, so any further help or contact information to people/companies that can help is very welcome.
 

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Got some valuable information by return from one of the CH members. Lots of thanks to Denny!
-As i am the owner in the UK and the car is registered here, the import to CH should not be to complicated. This apparently elliminates the need for both the noise and the emissions thest. :bigthumb:

I have a guy looking into the light conversions so the foglights should be a piece of cake, but could you please let me know what has been done on the headlights on your cars:

Such as:

Did you change the headlights or modify the originals?
-It is apparently relatively easy to modify the originalo lights to change the lamps to emmit a flat lightbeam.

If you have changed the headlights, where did you get the new lamps?
-Are there any lights from left hand drive Nissan models that fit a R32?

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Such as:

Did you change the headlights or modify the originals?
-It is apparently relatively easy to modify the originalo lights to change the lamps to emmit a flat lightbeam.

If you have changed the headlights, where did you get the new lamps?
-Are there any lights from left hand drive Nissan models that fit a R32?

this answer will be hard to get.

why?? because peaple make money with lights conversion.

wenn are u moving??

cheers

Barros
 

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Heading over in the beginning of January. Our company's European head office has moved from UK to CH, so the team i am in has been instruced to find our way there asap.. :nutkick:
I might leave the car in the UK for another month or so before driving it over so i can get my stuff together. Get the contacts lined up for the registrations and a garage set up to tuck it in at night.


Thanks for the feedback so far. The move seems a bit less daunting now.
If i get this right, I think the light issue should be relativey easy to get sorted. And if the expensive emmisions and noise tests can be avoided, as advised by Denny, then it should be a done deal. :bigthumb:
 

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From where do you have this wrong infos?
If he is moving from uk to ch, then there is no need for a emission test and no noise test! he can import his car as "übersiedlungsgut" that's too tax free like all his goods.
The Headlights do not need E Marks in Switzerland, DOT Mark is okay. The Low Beam Lights can be assymetrical like this ___/ or symmetrical like this ____ (rhd have normally this one: \___
So basically in his case with the unmodified car it's not a big issue!
For people who live in Switzerland and import then a skyline then its not that easy, then you have to make a emission and a noise test.

Hi mate, I´m not from switzerland as you can see, but I do know a little about it and it is a right pain to get a Skyline registered in Switzerland, that´s for sure. Even worse than it is in Germany. Quite time and money consuming process. You will defo need to convert your headlights by using some sort of E-marked solution and in addition to that get an expensive emission test (not the regular one that we all know from MOT/TUV etc) done. Normally they will also want to test your car for noise. Not only your exhaust but a full noise test including drive by. There are a couple of guys in Switzerland who already gone through all that, but not too many of them. In fact don´t even know if anyone of them is on this forum at all. If, they will be up some time soon I´d say. :cheers:
 

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From where do you have this wrong infos?
If he is moving from uk to ch, then there is no need for a emission test and no noise test! he can import his car as "übersiedlungsgut" that's too tax free like all his goods.
The Headlights do not need E Marks in Switzerland, DOT Mark is okay. The Low Beam Lights can be assymetrical like this ___/ or symmetrical like this ____ (rhd have normally this one: \___
So basically in his case with the unmodified car it's not a big issue!
For people who live in Switzerland and import then a skyline then its not that easy, then you have to make a emission and a noise test.
Listen to this man then Starald and ignore my post.
 

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Hi there:)

I am from Switzerland and was going through the same problem like you. I attached a form which I had to fill out and bring along with the indicated documents to the Boarder Customs Office... they filled out the rest... and thats it:) Not sure about the headlights though.. my car was a left hand drive one.

Hope this could help you a bit further... otherwise, give them a call:
the head customs Office in Bern: +41 (0)31 322 65 11
or in Basel: +41(0)61 287 12 87


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Joey
 

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Fantastic info. Thanks a lot :)

Got the lights sorted now. (i hope) The headlights have a flat beam and the fog light has been moved over to the left side.

Heading back up to Norway for my Christmas Holidays now. Got the car safely locked away, and if all goes to plan i will get back here in mid January and drive it across. :bigthumb:
 

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Fantastic info. Thanks a lot :)

Got the lights sorted now. (i hope) The headlights have a flat beam and the fog light has been moved over to the left side.

Heading back up to Norway for my Christmas Holidays now. Got the car safely locked away, and if all goes to plan i will get back here in mid January and drive it across. :bigthumb:
Hi Starald, no problemo....
hey, Maybe I'll see you around someday:) We are planning to go to Tuningworld Bodensee in April with the german skyline Forum, care to join us?
Greets,
Joey
 

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It has been a while since the last post, but now it's time for a quick update.

My Skyline is at the MFK center as we speak and if all goes to plan, I should have it back running on CH plates next week! :bigthumb:

It has taken a while to get there though, so here is a quick summary with cost elements in case anyone is going to attempt the same;

Customs:
I moved over to CH in the beginning of 2010, and there is a 12 month grace period to get the car registered in CH, so being a lazy git I did leave the car on UK plates for a long time... But in mid November I finally got started. I gathered all the paperwork for the car, roped in a Swiss friend to avoid any language issues, and headed down to the customs office. (Do not attempt this without a native unless you are absolutely fluent in German. Having a local present will make everything a bit easier, and will save you a lot of time and frustration.)

There is a wide array of paperwork and forms that must be presented to the customs, but I had this all present and ready. (PM me for details if you are about to try the same)
The only issue we had was that since it had taken 10 about 8 months between my household goods was cleared into the country, and presenting the car to them, the customs officer got stuck on the fact that I did not present a copy of the previous removal clearance.

It is not a rule or a requirement that you must present this, but the guy at customs felt that he wanted to see it for his own piece of mind, so there was really no point arguing.. We made a hasty retreat back to my office, called the removal agency to have them fax a copy of the clearance document to the customs office, and headed down there again. This time it went smooth, and 10 minutes later I was out of there with the document in hand.

Then on to the technical part:
With the help of Joey/Carnage I was put in touch with Marcel at A&M Motorsport in order to get the job done.
He examined the car and came up with the following list of points in order to get the car approved and on CH plates:

Headlight conversion to EU-Standard with Tüv
Emission document for Switzerland
Emission test Axle weight plaque (front and rear axle)
Speedometer conversion from MPH to KMH
Registration-tax
Total bill: CHF 2350

The two costly elements in this list (over 80% of the cost) are the headlight conversion and the Registration tax.

I was hoping the headlight conversion would not be necessary, but as there was no E marking or DOT marking on the original lights they have been taken out and sent to a specialist in DE to be converted and re built with approved parts.

Insurance:
I have been advised to get in touch with an insurance broker, and from what I can tell this has saved me a lot of greef.
It was not an easy process back in the UK; Foreigner with no second car registered in the country, no insurance history / no claims bonus and an EU license…
A-Plan came through though, so I eventually got it sorted, but the time spent looking around in order to find a company that would insure me on a Skyline was no fun.

Here I got a quote for 3 different levels of coverage within a day, and the price for the fully comprehensive cover is about the same I paid A-plan the first year. (again, feel free to PM me if you would like to get in touch with the same broker)

Really longing to get back behind the wheel. :drivin:
 

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My company tried to have a look as well, but they came up short... The best they could do in the end was a referral to the Nissan dealership, and it is really unlikely that will go anywhere as they would not know even where to start.

The MFK on Friday went well. The car is now approved! :dogpile:

The insurance broker is sending a representative to do a visual examination of the car on Monday. (A requirement they have to be able to provide full comp.)

After that, all that remains is to get the official paperwork printed, and then collect the licence plates.
This means that next weekend i may be able to go for a spin in a R32 GT-R on Swiss plates! :bananasmile:
 

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Headlight conversion to EU-Standard with Tüv
Emission document for Switzerland
Emission test Axle weight plaque (front and rear axle)
Speedometer conversion from MPH to KMH
Registration-tax
Total bill: CHF 2350

The two costly elements in this list (over 80% of the cost) are the headlight conversion and the Registration tax.

I was hoping the headlight conversion would not be necessary, but as there was no E marking or DOT marking on the original lights they have been taken out and sent to a specialist in DE to be converted and re built with approved parts.
Update on the list of charges:

In addition to the above, it is also necessary to take the car over to the The Federal Office of Metrology (METAS) to get the lights approved and certified.

Reason for this nasty little surprise at the end of this process i can only guess is down to the reason that the R32 never was sold outside JP, hence no parts were ever approved in Europe. The result of this is that the rebuild of the headlights is not enough to get an approval. All lights will need to be measured and approved. :disappointed:

This will promptly add another CHF 2000+ to the bill as well as add weeks to the waiting time... :swear:

Hoping this will be the last surprise...
 

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Finally!!!

Got my car back today! All Swiss approved and registered. :bananasmile:

Reason for the last delay is that one of the turbos broke.. The fan on the exhaust side was damaged, so a new (used) turbo from Abby has been put in.

METAS bill for approval of all lights landed as just over CHF 3000, and in addition i had to change the brake disks (old and worn) and the shocks (one faulty shock leaking oil) to so the total bill for getting the R32 through the MFK has added up.. :dogpile:

But all done now! Time to get some miles in before i tuck it away for the winter. :drivin:
 
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