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Hi, new member here. I found an R34 GTT which has a true RB26DETT motor and converted to AWD. It's in excellent condition.

It has about 28,000 miles. I can get it for USD $50,000

The owner states that it is a "grey market" car and is titled as a "kit / special construction" car.

My first concern is the legality and re-sellability of the vehicle as well as insurance, My other question is the value. For a mere 25K more, I can just buy an R35. How big of a demand from (willing and able) buyers you think this car has at a 50 - 60K price point.

I was going to have it painted blue, and add the original MFD
 

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any pics of the car and the conversion? since it would have been a lot cheaper and easier to use a gtr chassis that attempt to make a rear wheel drive chassis awd as the full floor pan and chassis is completely differant between the 2?
 

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any pics of the car and the conversion? since it would have been a lot cheaper and easier to use a gtr chassis that attempt to make a rear wheel drive chassis awd as the full floor pan and chassis is completely differant between the 2?
Im asking him for pics now. he says he has all the receipts for the motor and drivetrain conversion
 

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Be good to see the pics of how he done conversion on full chassis and floor pan
 

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any pics of the car and the conversion? since it would have been a lot cheaper and easier to use a gtr chassis that attempt to make a rear wheel drive chassis awd as the full floor pan and chassis is completely differant between the 2?
He does not have any photos of the awd conversion... he says that they only modified the "trans tunnel"
 

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He does not have any photos of the awd conversion... he says that they only modified the "trans tunnel"
Then it's bullocks to the conversion then
The trans tunnel is differant
The floor pan is differant
The full front end is differant
Full front chassis legs are completely differant
Front subframe is completely differant
all front suspension is completely differant


basically to allow front drive shafts the chassis legs are raised very high to allow a higher designed front subframe to be fitted to allow a lot shorter front shocks fitted to allow the shafts to go under front shocks then differant hubs are used and differant suspension arms are fitted. That's why gtr front suspension is completely differant to non gtr suspension

however it's funny how he has no pics of the conversion yet claims it has been converted, if I had done a similer job I would have loads of pics
 

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Then it's bullocks to the conversion then
The trans tunnel is differant
The floor pan is differant
The full front end is differant
Full front chassis legs are completely differant
Front subframe is completely differant
all front suspension is completely differant


basically to allow front drive shafts the chassis legs are raised very high to allow a higher designed front subframe to be fitted to allow a lot shorter front shocks fitted to allow the shafts to go under front shocks then differant hubs are used and differant suspension arms are fitted. That's why gtr front suspension is completely differant to non gtr suspension

however it's funny how he has no pics of the conversion yet claims it has been converted, if I had done a similer job I would have loads of pics
I supposed I can ask him to take a few pictures under the car. Otherwise the only way to really know for sure is to take a short flight to the seller's location and look for myself.

Assuming it IS AWD and it runs and drives good after a good inspection... what do you think about the price and legality for USA?
 

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Take loads of pics and also of vin plate number to check what it really is and value is only what someone will pay and the legality of it? It's illegal to use on the roads in America is what I have seen from previous threads as apparently it was only 33s of a certain year that was legally allowed except now for the 32 gtrs as there past the 25 year rule
 

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Sure it was a gtt? And not a awd neo no turbo?

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i forgot about the awd na lol however were they not 4 door??
 

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I'm not to sure how many doors they were tbh pal, but it depends if you can transfer them between chassis etc etc.

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2 and 4 door chassis and bodys are differant and again to make fit it would outweight the cost of buying a gtr and a jig and such,however the awd na is sounding good but only the vin plate can reveal it
 

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No, it's not legal in any way, shape or form. Except for the half dozen or so Motorex R34s that got a bond release back in 2002 or '06, there are no Federally legal R34s. The car you're looking at has null resalability and if Homeland Security gets wind of it, it will be seized. Besides, having a drivetrain and engine swapped vehicle is also illegal to import. You could only do a swap after it's been legally imported and given a bond release. Unless you can find a Motorex R34 GTR for sale, go get you an R35 if you want a late model GTR.

I'm seriously wondering why this topic comes up so much. Too lazy to Google? Only Motorex cars with a Federal bond release and Skylines that are 25 years old or older are legally imported. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS.
 

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awd receipts

ok, so he sent me the receipt for the engine swap and conversion. He dropped $22K on the work. He seems like a straight up guy and Im sure its been converted, I don't really question his honesty regarding the disclosed condition. Im very well mechanically trained so mechanics on this decision are the least of my worries..

I more worried about the value and re-saleability.

Currently it's black, and I plan to increase the value by having it painted blue, adding gold wheels, finish the conversion by adding GTR badges floormats, ect, and installing Bride seats.

My thought is to sell it to somebody rich in Florida or california
 

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send me you address and ill send you a reciept saying i spend 40k on it,its easily done and the fact he has no pictures of the "swap" speaks volumes and the fact you want to repaint it to add value??? bollcks mate if you completely re paint a car a completely differant colour it lowers the value as it seems like your hiding something ie been rolled so every panel needed work meaning a full re spray was only option.

also adding gtr stuff to it when its not a gtr will only lower the value again since its not what your saying it is

lastly as has been told twice now it is ILLEGAL in usa to have that type of car
 

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send me you address and ill send you a reciept saying i spend 40k on it,its easily done and the fact he has no pictures of the "swap" speaks volumes and the fact you want to repaint it to add value??? bollcks mate if you completely re paint a car a completely differant colour it lowers the value as it seems like your hiding something ie been rolled so every panel needed work meaning a full re spray was only option.

also adding gtr stuff to it when its not a gtr will only lower the value again since its not what your saying it is

lastly as has been told twice now it is ILLEGAL in usa to have that type of car
I understand your logic. My logic was to make it a finished GTR replica... as this is as close as anyone could economically come to an R34 GTR in the USA.

I'm trying to negotiate the price down to $30K... at that price point, I think it may be worth the price, even if it were to sit in the garage indefinitely. It's a black car and I think black is a less marketable color than the iconic blue.

The car is a 5 hour drive away so I may just go take a look. I am more seeking to buy the car as a money making investment but want to buy it at a price that I don't care if I keep it or re-sell it.

I really do value all the feedback that I have received from this thread. :)
 

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ok then as long as we understand each other then :D

you still have the issue of it being a replica and even then i doubt it is awd and until i see the vin plate and pictures of how he has done the conversion then i reckon he is banking o a gullable idiot,no offense to you

also as other usa residants will tell you they have had there cars confiscated and crushed or sold abroad just purely for having it in the country. so if you buy it and it doesnt get confiscated then whats the point of just having it sat in your garage when you cant use it,and you cant really sell it either? you say you can keep it as an investment but whats the point if you run the risk of it being impounded and you losing whatever you spent on it?

contact other members in usa and listen to there stories mate
 

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ok then as long as we understand each other then :D

you still have the issue of it being a replica and even then i doubt it is awd and until i see the vin plate and pictures of how he has done the conversion then i reckon he is banking o a gullable idiot,no offense to you

also as other usa residants will tell you they have had there cars confiscated and crushed or sold abroad just purely for having it in the country. so if you buy it and it doesnt get confiscated then whats the point of just having it sat in your garage when you cant use it,and you cant really sell it either? you say you can keep it as an investment but whats the point if you run the risk of it being impounded and you losing whatever you spent on it?

contact other members in usa and listen to there stories mate
I would love to have the opportunity to contact prior skyline owners. That is exactly why I bothered to create an account on this forum in the USA section to begin with!

The mere fact that i cant FIND owners or any real objective feedback, both feeds the argument of increased value but equally argues illegality.

Here in the USA, there is a "gray" market for these cars and I am seeking feedback from owner in the USA who have experience in this gray market.

I am going to contact the department of homeland security as well as US Customs and find out the real answers on the legality.
 

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Please don't be so hard-headed. I just told you the exact answer on its legality. I'll even tell you the NHTSA importation code for Skylines. It's VCP-32 and the NHTSA only allows the '96-'98 R33 Skyline GTS and GTR models to be imported as those were the only cars Motorex crash tested and provided data for. Here's the statute: http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/faq site/pages/page10.html
Those cars must be imported by an RI or an ICI and then made FMVSS and EPA compliant within 120 days or the bond on the car is forfeited (meaning the vehicle will be seized by Customs.) Supposedly, JK Technologies in Baltimore is still doing the service at a cost of $35k.

The one and only R34 Skyline that can be imported legally into the USA is the 1999 GTR V-Spec under the Show or Display exemption for FMVSS but it still has to be converted to OBD-II and made EPA emissions compliant. Currently no Registered Importer or Independent Commercial Importer has the know-how or capability to do that. So, again, other than the few Motorex R34s that were given a bond release prior to 2006, any and all R34s in this country are illegal.
 
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