Just wondering if anyone is using the SAFC NEO and what your experiences have been with it (good bit of kit, worth the money, any problems with it?)
Also when you had it installed and set up on a rolling road - what did the garage you used make of it. Did they comment whether it was easy to install and set up? How long did it take them?
Finally, who would you guys recomend in Scotland (central if possible but I am willing to travel if needs be) that would have the expertise required?
Just curious as I am at the stage where I am looking for a piggyback ECU and with the SAFC II now in short supply ( I'm not an e-bayer - have never used it and probably never will) the NEO seems like the obvious choice....BUT.... i've not heard much aout them and just looking for a bit of info.
Neil, did any of these tuners give you a reason why they considered the SAFC 2 the better unit? The Neo allows more points for adjustment and appears very user friendly. So i am wondering whether it is possible that the tuners are simply saying the SAFC 2 is a better unit because they are familiar with it and more comfortable setting it up? Oftentimes people dont like change.
Not being a tuner i wouldnt know so this is a serious question and not intended to be argumentative. I am aware that i can sometimes come across as such.
Vicky
i don't really now why they said that it may be they had knowledge with the older unit?
I spoke to about 3-4 different people and they all said go for the 2, they did tell me some technical reasons why but it all sounded like french to me. Sorry can't help any more than that
I just don't understand why a manufacturer would bring out a product that is supposed to superscede a discontinued product, give it fewer functions and make it inferior???
I'm not planning on going past stage 1 mods (whatever that is - seems to change on a regular basis) so didn't think I would need to go down the replacement ECU route - thought a piggyback would meet my requirements.
Might need to continue hunting for an SAFC II then.
NEO does not monitor knock, never used one personally but my friend in japan runs an Autobacs and he said it doesn't, looked at the wire digram, and Vicky is correct it does not connect to knock sensors
Look forward to hearing how you get along Speedfreak. I think these look like really trick bits of kit. Dont think it will do much good in my deisel estate though.
I am using Jez Horsham of Horsham Developments. He does great work with the 200 lot - and I have great confidence that he will do just as good work with the skyline
Thanks Hi5 - informative as ever - Still can't decide which I want or is best.
Is there any stand alone unit/meters that you can buy that solely monitors knock levels (that aren't replacement ECU's or piggybacks - or is that not possible)??
Thanks to all who have replied - I now have my answer. If the stock ECU will continue to monitor knock and make any required adjustments when it detects knock, then the SAFC NEO will do the trick for me.
Yep, and Crap Splitfire Spark plugs, I think the heat range wasn't as high as advertised!
I use the safc 2 because on hot days when I see a bit of knock I add a bit of fuel before the ecu even notices anything.
My engine went at about 155-160 mph as i was racing a 350z on the autobahn, but by the time i noticed my engine was running poorly I didn't see any knock, it might have shown up but been too late and i was so distressed i didn't even think to use the peak hold feature.
It just might have been high cyl temps due to my leaky exhaust manifold
(both studs broken on no 6) and never had any knock.
I'll never know, but that knock sensor has saved my butt before when my fpr line popped off and I started to run lean under boost!
Thanks for letting us know how ya got on speedfreak - you'll need to post up your figures once you've RR'd it.
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