[Bellsautos]

New Stage 1 R33 GTST ECU V2 Remap with improved Fuel and ignition tables, Limiter increased to 7400 and a few other tweaks. Will give slightly more power and response over older versions.

Modifications required are :-

Front Mount Intercooler
Full Exhaust System
Decat
Induction Kit
Boost increase to .85b
Shell V-Power 98+ Octane fuel

Power can be expected upto 330bhp depending on engine condition and correct setup of ignition timing.

The graph here shows before and after on a test vehicle with exactly the same boost but only a change from a standard ecu to the remapped ecu. As you can see the power & torque curves are flattened out with a healthy increase in both power and torque.

Price is £210 on a exchange basis.

 

[niz406]

Rich, that looks great.... look how flat the torque is.

I bet that's nice to drive!

 

[StuartTheFish]

For the plethora of people who already own the original generic ecu, is it possible for a free upgrade?

 

[LunaticLearner]

Disappointed

I only got mine a month or so back.

Can I send the ECU / CHIP off to you for the improved version ??

Yes it's better on fuel, but not worth the £$€ for the slight increase in the get up and go in my eyes. ( just my opinion )

I know you said I can bring it down and shove it on the dyno, but whats the point as you should know if its the economy map or not

And no label - serial number on the ECU so not as if I can sell it if I wanted to.

PM me if you like

 

[Bellsautos]

economy map

we do not have an economy map option, rich is more than happy to look at it on the dyno to see if the timing is all set up right as that can cause problems?

Disappointed

I only got mine a month or so back.

Can I send the ECU / CHIP off to you for the improved version ??

Yes it's better on fuel, but not worth the £$€ for the slight increase in the get up and go in my eyes. ( just my opinion )

I know you said I can bring it down and shove it on the dyno, but whats the point as you should know if its the economy map or not

And no label - serial number on the ECU so not as if I can sell it if I wanted to.

PM me if you like

 

[Bellsautos]

as for upgrading to the new version, the chips used are write once only so they can not be updated. if you wanted to pay for a new chip and postage the cost would be £60 to anyone with a stage 1v1

 

[StuartTheFish]

I'm aware that it's a write once deal, but was just thinking you'd be able to supply a v2 generic ecu, we then return our current v1 generic ecu, and you then either sell it on as a v1 and price it accordingly, or change the chip and add it back to your stock. You've already socketed the board, so changing the chip over is no great task. 60 quid for you to post a replacement chip out for us to swap over is a little steep IMO, given we already paid full price for the ecu in the first place. Unless I've misunderstood and that's 60 quid to post a replacement ecu and we keep our old one, that's reasonable in that case. Just thought you could charge for the cost of the chip and postage maybe.

Anyway, do you have a graph showing the difference between v1 and v2? As the only graph you've shown so far only compares v2 to standard. If you plan on charging us 60 quid to upgrade, I'd quite like to see how it's actually improved over the v1 for it to be worth my while.

 

[Bellsautos]

the chips cost us £50, thats why the offer to change them as cheap as we can go

I'm aware that it's a write once deal, but was just thinking you'd be able to supply a v2 generic ecu, we then return our current v1 generic ecu, and you then either sell it on as a v1 and price it accordingly, or change the chip and add it back to your stock. You've already socketed the board, so changing the chip over is no great task. 60 quid for you to post a replacement chip out for us to swap over is a little steep IMO, given we already paid full price for the ecu in the first place. Unless I've misunderstood and that's 60 quid to post a replacement ecu and we keep our old one, that's reasonable in that case. Just thought you could charge for the cost of the chip and postage maybe.

Anyway, do you have a graph showing the difference between v1 and v2? As the only graph you've shown so far only compares v2 to standard. If you plan on charging us 60 quid to upgrade, I'd quite like to see how it's actually improved over the v1 for it to be worth my while.

 

[StuartTheFish]

the chips cost us £50, thats why the offer to change them as cheap as we can go

Wow, they made of gold or something? Oh well, fair enough! Must be fun while custom mapping a car then! Write once, see how it is, then tweak, write another, etc. Unless you can plug a laptop into the socket to make the map, with the car running off the laptop, and then write one finalised map to the chip when you've got it right?

So would you be exchanging ecus, or literally just sending a mapped chip through the post?

Any chance of a graph showing the difference between v1 and v2?

 

[ryanm]

I'd presume the 60quid is for the chip only and you'd have to change it yourself

As for people expecting a free upgrade, you can't be serious surely, that's like moaning that you paid full price for a box of Pringles and finding the following month they have 30% extra in the can haha

I can't see bells wanting the old ones back as no one will buy them with a newer better Map they want to sell.

You should have paid the extra and got a custom map done. Generic maps are **** IMO always have been always will be

 

[StuartTheFish]

There's no moaning or expecting going on, but you don't get if you don't ask. I won't be the only person who's wondering.

As for generic maps being ****, they aren't. They're a compromise for those of us who don't have the money for a custom map, or people who plan on more mods in future, but don't want to pay for a map twice.

And if they had the old ones back, there's nothing stopping them from selling them cheaper than the v2 ones, or simply changing the chip and then having more v2 ECUs sat on the shelf ready for any new customers.

 

[niz406]

Wow, they made of gold or something? Oh well, fair enough! Must be fun while custom mapping a car then! Write once, see how it is, then tweak, write another, etc. Unless you can plug a laptop into the socket to make the map, with the car running off the laptop, and then write one finalised map to the chip when you've got it right?

It's emulated off the laptop just like that, when the maps spot on it's written to the rom... and that's it JD!

 

[igralec]

Cool, need this, like IOS update on Iphones!

 

[StuartTheFish]

Cool, need this, like IOS update on Iphones!

The iOS7 updates are even worse than previous versions!

 

[DRIVE_Chris]

Will grab one of these next month

 

[R33-Tom]

It's emulated off the laptop just like that, when the maps spot on it's written to the rom... and that's it JD!

So if I were to take my car over in person to Rich, run my motor from a laptop and get the best map and then get the chip burned, would that still be included in the price or is then becoming a custom map, Bells?

 

[niz406]

So if I were to take my car over in person to Rich, run my motor from a laptop and get the best map and then get the chip burned, would that still be included in the price or is then becoming a custom map, Bells?

That's a custom map, this advertised one is a generic tune, version 2 of their popular plug and play set up.

A custom map is your car on the dyno plugged in and tuned for your individual set up, it always ends up in more ponies that way.... best to go custom every time if you can get there!

 

[coldel]

So whats the improvement against v1? I have a v1, but surely you wouldnt purchase an 'upgrade' unless you knew what exactly the level of upgrade it is? I cant pull together a Pringles example the closest I can get is if I booked a hotel room and the staff offered me an upgrade at a certain cost, I would check to see how good the upgraded room is and decide if the upgrade is worth the cash - I wouldn't just part with my hard earned.

 

[igralec]

It's probably literally just a little more optimised, if let's say the V1 gets you 315hp, you fit V2 and you get 319hp, but if you get it custom mapped you'll get 326hp - all on the exact same setup.

Anyway i'd like one

 

[Bellsautos]

that would become a custom map.

So if I were to take my car over in person to Rich, run my motor from a laptop and get the best map and then get the chip burned, would that still be included in the price or is then becoming a custom map, Bells?