[coldel]

It's probably literally just a little more optimised, if let's say the V1 gets you 315hp, you fit V2 and you get 319hp, but if you get it custom mapped you'll get 326hp - all on the exact same setup.

Anyway i'd like one

Yeah I am thinking that. Not really worth it for what I use the car for as wouldn't notice such a small change. Unless it can add an extra 5mpg of course!

 

[StuartTheFish]

It's the graph that matters, not peak bhp. Which is why I keep asking for one comparing v1 with v2.

 

[ryanm]

There's no moaning or expecting going on, but you don't get if you don't ask. I won't be the only person who's wondering.

As for generic maps being ****, they aren't. They're a compromise for those of us who don't have the money for a custom map, or people who plan on more mods in future, but don't want to pay for a map twice.

And if they had the old ones back, there's nothing stopping them from selling them cheaper than the v2 ones, or simply changing the chip and then having more v2 ECUs sat on the shelf ready for any new customers.

I can see your point stuart, but anyone running skylines would be more than aware of the costs involved with running one. it aint no 1.2 corsa... yeah i appreciate a generic map "can" be ok but nothing like a custom map. just dont see the point in buying a 5k+ motor to then skimp out of tuning it properly.

I had thought about buying the v1 a couple of weeks ago and yes i would have been a bit pissed if a week later they had a new better map, i would however expect bells to be honest and tell me there is new one due very soon, if they didnt then i wouldnt ever go back to them, so they would lose alot of potential ££££


so Bells wheres the graph for OEM vs V1 vs V2, cause that what we wanna see

 

[Bellsautos]

The point of the new revision is not to offer it as a upgrade over the original that I done 6years ago but as a new version of the map with some extra refinements and changes that I have discovered and found work over the years.

Changes have been made to the scaling of the maps, rev limit, Boost limiter, VVT cut point and the fuel and ignition curves. The new version will make slightly more power at the expense of having to use Shell v-power or better as the ignition has been remaped using this fuel which is where the extra power will come from. Alot of the other adjustments are aimed at how the car feels and drives.

As the original plan was not really to offer a upgrade route to older ecus but more a new version for new customers. However if people would like to upgrade we have now come up with a few options. In my opinion it would not be worth the extra to upgrade to the new software as you are not going to feel a extra 5-10bhp or the slight increase in torque. However he are the prices if you wish to upgrade.

Upgrade from version 1 stage 1 to version 2 on a ecu exchange would be £60+vat and delivery
Upgrade from generic or stage 2 ecu would be £120+vat and delivery on a ecu exchange. The reason for the higher price on this one is that we can not use the original chip but on the stage 1 ecus we will offer a version 1 ecus that have been exchanged cheaper on ebay auctions as they come available.

I am away not until Wednesday but I will post up the original dyno sheets when I`m back.

Richard

 

[igralec]

I'd be very interested in the V2 map, if there is an exchange option that wouldn't leave my car without the ECU for 2 weeks. 5-10bhp wouldn't hurt on track either, but i'm more interested to see if a slight hesitation between 2000-3500rpm goes away with a new map (and i run 100 octane fuel already)

 

[dazwheel]

If I buy this how do I swap them over ?? Just disconnect battery ? Swap over then reconnect ?

 

[Bellsautos]

yes thats correct. You don`t even need to disconnect the battery. The ecu is located in the n/s footwell.

 

[StuartTheFish]

Any progress on those comparison printouts yet?

 

[Bellsautos]

Nope I `v been away and have not sorted them yet. Are you interested in upgrading then?

 

[StuartTheFish]

Potentially, if it's worth it!

 

[coldel]

Me too - but need to see the graphs to see what gains are seen where across the range.

 

[StuartTheFish]

Exactly mate.

 

[igralec]

I'm interested regardless, but would be nice to see the graph anyway

 

[dazwheel]

Can I buy online ? Or do I just ring the number threw day ? Cheers I'll take 1 tomorrow

 

[Bellsautos]

on our ebay shop (rb-rebuild) or call office in working hours, if answer phone leave a message and we will get back to you

Can I buy online ? Or do I just ring the number threw day ? Cheers I'll take 1 tomorrow

 

[StuartTheFish]

Still no sign of those v1 and v2 comparison graphs then?

 

[igralec]

I don't think they're even selling these...

 

[coldel]

I am going to be taking the car down to horsham dev soon, would like the new ecu fitted for it - astonished that the graphs are still not up - can only assume they are making much more money on work on other things!

 

[benskyliner34]

I have a font mount, full exhaust system not sure about decat as only got it recently plus passed an mot ok also induction kit. I only use v power but I wouldn't no how to increase the boost. So this would cost 210 plus my old ecu? Would having a 300zx ecu make things better? I have both ecus cheers

 

[Bellsautos]

Standard, V1 Stage 1 (discontinued) and V2 Stage 1 (only type available)

The stage 2 as said before has a smoother power delivery, Better topend power and torque. Tweaked ignition and fueling tables. Better map scaling. The Boost limit have been re installed rather than removed and raised to 1.0b.

The Version 2 map is now the ONLY one that any new ecu will be programmed with. As we said above it is not intended for you to be upgrading from Version 1 - Version 2 as in our opinion the improvments are not massive. But for people who are starting out and want there ECU done it will be the VERSION 2 map.

I hope that clears everything up.