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Water Temp Sensor Warm Start Issue

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#1 · (Edited)
One of my current issues with my GTS-T (the O2 Sensor doesn't look a like a happy camper either) is a warm start issue. After many hours of trying to get drivers for my Nissan Consult that actually work, I plugged it up today and let the car warm up.

The Coolant Temp reading didn't change, remaining at 1C. Both terminals on the CTS are in good condition with no corrosion. I measured the resistance across the CTS terminals, and with the car at around a 1/4 of normal operating temperature on the gauge (it had cooled quickly after the initial test) I am getting a reading of 500 Ohms descending as the car gets warmer.

Wondered if anyone knew what the resistance should be?

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I've just read this from http://www.gtrcanada.com/wordpress/2011/11/diagnosing-nissan-idle-issues/ so I think that answers my question but I'll leave the post up in case it's useful to someone else.

Coolant temperature sensor:
The ECU coolant temp sensor is a very common cause of high idle, hesitation and safety boost mode. It’s located in front of the engine on the upper aluminum coolant pipe (see pic 5). Most often the source of the problem is bad connection caused by corrosion on its contact. You can also check the resistance of the sensor by measuring it across its terminals.

The resistance should be:

2.1-2.9 kOhm at 20C (68F)
0.68-1.0 kOhm at 50C (122F)
0.30-0.33 kOhm at 80C (176F)



Cheers...
 
#3 ·
I don't seem to be able to read the error codes with the version of the Consult software I have so I'm trying to find a thermometer with the correct range so I can check temperature v resistance via the put-it-in-a-pan-and-gently-heat method!
 
#4 ·
You can try shorting the pins on the diagnostic connector I had to do this as i'm still waiting for my cable I just had a similar problem but the earth wire was bad so i just ran it to the earth point right below it's all good now.
 
#5 ·
Do you mean short a pin to earth on the diagnostic connector while using the consult (bad earth scenario)? Just trying to locate the diagnostic connector on the wiring diagram. It's so bloody small I need an eyeglass to read some of it - wish I had an A3 printer :(
 
#7 ·
Thanks for that :) Will give it a go once I've thawed out and am ready for a bit more fault finding: I've got a battery drain issue too but I think I've just found that...hopefully.
 
#10 ·
Have you got a shot with engine running? what makes you think the O2 sensor has a problem? and have you tried a new water temp sensor yet?
You say the temp doesn't change, even after cleaning the contacts?
 
#11 ·
There's no O2 reading with the engine running. Consult doesn't see temp change, but I can see the resistance changing on the CTS as the engine warms up (resistance going down as engine warms up). Have checked continuity between CTS/ECU & CTS/Throttle sensor and OK. Haven't swapped out the CTS yet as I want to verify it has a fault first. Going to retrieve the fault codes in a while.
 
#13 ·
Your O2 voltage is about right for still warming up and the water temp, 0.79 v equates to about 13.2 AFR.

And did you check any of the other points raised in that problem solving write up?